Fostering a positive and proactive company culture should be at the forefront of any business strategy. It’s what sets your company apart from the rest. A happy workforce makes for productive results, so it’s no wonder that companies of all shapes and sizes are working hard to make their organizations into exceptional places to work.
As we learned in Venture Atlanta 2022’s Talent Wars Panel, the best employee retention strategies have less to do with overall compensation and more to do with building a strong culture. So, what does great company culture look like? Let's take a look at 20 different startups that are embracing an innovative company culture, as well as some examples of startup companies that exemplify these principles.
1. Monday.com
Monday.com, a popular work operating system, has been recognized for its unique and empowering company culture. The startup prides itself on its flat organizational structure, giving employees a strong sense of autonomy and ownership of their work. Monday.com offers employees various other perks, including flexible work hours, team events, and professional development opportunities. The company was selected by Comparably as one of the Best Places to Work in New York 2023, an annual award given to companies with the top-performing company cultures based on real employee feedback. The company also appeared on Inc’s Best Workplaces of 2022 list, making it an excellent example of a startup company with a strong culture.
2. Canva
In addition to its free products and user-friendly interface, this easy-to-use graphic design platform has also garnered attention for its culture that fosters innovation and collaboration. Canva's offices feature vibrant workspaces, and employees are encouraged to take part in team-building activities and skill development workshops. The Australian-based company emerged as a true inspiration back in 2020 when it was celebrated for being one of the best startups at keeping remote employees engaged during the pandemic. Canva ranked #3 on Great Place to Work's 2020 Best Workplaces in Australia list, and the company’s upward trajectory doesn’t seem to be slowing down any time soon.
3. Iterable
Iterable, a growth marketing platform, is committed to cultivating a supportive and inclusive company culture. The organization emphasizes collaboration, diversity, and work-life balance, which translates to a vibrant and dynamic work environment. Iterable invests in its employees' growth, offering stipends for learning and development, health and fitness, and even a paid sabbatical as part of its employee benefits.
4. Outreach
Outreach, a sales engagement platform, was quite literally built on determination. In 2014, the founders found themselves short on cash and in dire need of hitting their goals for the startup to survive. They ended up doing just that and more, growing into a company with offices in three countries and landing a spot in America’s 100 Most Loved Companies by Newsweek.
5. Figma
Figma, a collaborative design tool, has built a company culture that prioritizes innovation, collaboration, and employee well-being. The organization offers a supportive work environment, providing opportunities for professional development, flexible work hours, and various team events. This focus on company culture has helped Figma quickly become a leading player in the design software industry. In 2020, Figma was recognized as one of Fast Company's Best Workplaces for Innovators. Figma’s continued success led to Adobe acquiring the company in late 2022.
6. Notion
Notion, an all-in-one productivity platform, has created a company culture that promotes teamwork, innovation, and employee satisfaction. The organization offers a supportive work environment, flexible hours, and opportunities for professional development. In 2021, Notion received an award in the Learning Excellence Awards’ Outstanding Innovation category for STAR® Manager, their groundbreaking leadership and management development program that supports managers at all levels. By prioritizing personal and professional growth, Notion has built a thriving startup culture that continues to drive its success.
7. Coda
As a collaborative document editing platform built on the mission of bringing teams together, Coda is committed to building a company culture that values team-minded innovation. The organization offers a supportive environment where employees can thrive. This focus on company culture has helped Coda become a leading player in the document collaboration space and earned them a spot on Inc’s Best Workplaces of 2022.
8. Loom
Loom, a video messaging platform, places a strong emphasis on collaboration, transparency, and employee well-being. The company has cultivated an inclusive work environment that both encourages innovation and fosters employee growth. Loom offers various benefits, including flexible work arrangements, learning opportunities, and team-building activities, helping to create an active and engaged workforce.
9. Calendly
Calendly, a popular scheduling automation software, has cultivated a company culture that values diversity, collaboration, and personal growth. The startup hosts regular "Calendly Cares" events, where employees engage in philanthropic activities and volunteer work. As a result of its exceptional startup culture, Calendly was a recipient of Comparably’s Best Work-Life Balance and Perks & Benefits awards in 2021.
10. Asana
Asana, a work management platform, fosters a culture centered around mindfulness, diversity, and continuous improvement. The company's office spaces are designed to promote both focused work and team interaction, and Asana provides resources for personal growth and learning. In a tech industry still largely dominated by men, the company is made up of 45% female employees and found itself on Fortune’s list of 100 Best Workplaces for Women in 2022.
11. Zapier
Zapier, an automation platform that connects various apps and services, has established a company culture that emphasizes remote work, flexibility, and employee empowerment. The organization promotes a sense of autonomy and encourages team members to take ownership of their projects, fostering innovation and productivity. By providing various benefits, such as flexible work hours and learning opportunities, Zapier has created an engaging and dynamic work environment.
12. Buffer
Buffer, a social media management platform, stands out for its commitment to transparency, inclusivity, and work-life balance. The company has a strong remote work culture and offers employees unlimited vacation days to promote well-being. Buffer was recognized as one of Quartz's Best Companies for Remote Workers in 2021.
13. Webflow
Webflow, a website design and development platform, is dedicated to fostering a company culture that values teamwork, creativity, and employee satisfaction. The organization offers a supportive work environment, professional development opportunities, and various team-building activities. By prioritizing employee well-being and collaboration, Webflow has built a thriving startup culture that drives its success in the competitive web design space.
14. Superhuman
Superhuman, an email productivity tool, boasts a supportive work environment, professional development opportunities, and team-building events. By prioritizing employee well-being and collaboration, Superhuman has attracted top talent and achieved success in the competitive email productivity space.
15. Chorus.ai
Chorus.ai, an AI-driven conversation analytics platform, is recognized for its culture that fosters growth, innovation, and teamwork. The company hosts regular team-building events and offers continuous learning opportunities, including leadership development programs. The innovative company was acquired by ZoomInfo in 2021, and a year later, Chorus.ai was recognized in Fortune’s 2022 Best Workplaces in the Bay Area.
16. Duolingo
Duolingo, a popular language learning app, has built a company culture that emphasizes employee well-being, continuous learning, and social impact. The startup hosts regular "Duolingo Talks," featuring guest speakers from various industries, and dedicates resources to support underrepresented groups in tech. Duolingo appeared in Inc’s Best Led Companies of 2021.
17. Airtable
Airtable, a flexible cloud-based collaboration platform, has built a company culture that emphasizes innovation and collaboration. The organization offers a supportive work environment, flexible hours, and opportunities for professional development. By prioritizing its own employees, Airtable has built a thriving startup culture that drives its success in the rapidly growing no-code/low-code market.
18. GitLab
GitLab, a web-based platform for software development and collaboration, is known for its 100% remote work culture, which offers employees exceptional flexibility and work-life balance. GitLab's commitment to transparency and inclusivity has earned its recognition as a great place to work. In 2022, GitLab earned a spot on Fortune’s list of Best Workplaces in Technology.
19. Gloat
Gloat, an AI-driven internal talent marketplace, has built a company culture that encourages innovation, collaboration, and employee growth. With a focus on empowering employees to take ownership of their work and drive the company's success, Gloat offers a supportive and engaging environment that contributes to its rapid growth and industry disruption.
20. Samsara
Samsara, an IoT platform for connected operations, has cultivated a culture that emphasizes inclusivity from the top down, with diverse representation at the leadership level. The company invests in the growth and development of its employees, offering mentorship programs, skill-building workshops, and resources for career advancement. Samsara was recognized for helping move the needle on diversity and inclusion as a winner of RippleMatch’s 2022 Campus Forward Award.
Venture Atlanta Alumni With Strong Company Culture
Many of our very own alumni companies are also shining startup examples that embody healthy company cultures. We’ve highlighted a few of our favorites below!
MessageGears
MessageGears is a real-time customer engagement platform.
A member of the Inc. Best Workplaces 2022 list, MessageGears takes a purposeful approach to fostering a culture that prioritizes innovation and customer success. Their culture starts at the top, with their CEO serving as an executive sponsor to the company's culture committee, where team members from every department meet to discuss fostering employee engagement and improving benefits.
Florence
Florence advances clinical trials through software for managing document and data flow between research sites and sponsors.
Another member of the Inc. Best Workplaces 2022 list, Florence puts culture first by prioritizing transparency and recognizing team members. The company also offers unlimited time off with a mandatory three-week minimum vacation policy, Zoom yoga and weekly meditation events, plus fun activities like virtual scavenger hunts and karaoke.They also have a dedicated committee to ensure that diversity and inclusion remain a focus within the company's culture.
Pardot
Salesforce Pardot (also known as Marketing Cloud Account Engagement) is a leading marketing automation platform that stands out as a startup with a strong company culture rooted in collaboration and innovation. The organization is dedicated to creating a nurturing work environment that promotes personal and professional growth for its employees.
The company supports employee development through mentorship programs, skill-building workshops, and opportunities for career advancement. Pardot also values work-life balance, offering flexible hours and remote work options to ensure employee well-being. By focusing on employee satisfaction and fostering a supportive atmosphere, Pardot has built a vibrant startup culture that attracts top talent and contributes to its success in the marketing automation industry.
Goodr
Goodr is a food waste management company built on empowerment through sustainable solutions. That very same mission is clearly evident in their culture as well, as the organization encourages employees to bring their unique skills and perspectives to the table, fostering an environment of collaboration and continuous improvement. Goodr prioritizes employee well-being, offering a range of benefits and resources to support work-life balance and personal growth.
Carvana
Carvana, a revolutionary online car buying and selling platform, has set itself apart as a startup with an outstanding company culture. Recognizing the importance of a supportive work environment, Carvana invests in its employees by providing a variety of employment resource groups that promote diversity and inclusion.
The company values collaboration and innovative thinking, creating a workplace where employees feel empowered to share ideas and contribute to the organization's success. Carvana also prioritizes employee well-being, offering comprehensive benefits packages, team-building activities, and flexible work arrangements. This commitment to employee satisfaction has helped Carvana build a dynamic startup culture that fuels its growth and industry disruption.
Show Off Your Company at Venture Atlanta 2023
Each and every one of these startup company examples demonstrates the importance of fostering a positive and proactive company culture. By emphasizing employee well-being and creating an environment where everyone can thrive, these players in tech have set themselves apart in their respective industries. We look forward to discovering more shining stars in company culture at Venture Atlanta 2023. Register today!
Venture Atlanta is an organization that prides itself on connecting innovative entrepreneurs with the capital and resources they need to grow and scale their businesses. We couldn't be more excited for this year's conference, as we are confident it will be the best one yet.
Our enthusiasm stems not only from the exceptional line-up of entrepreneurs, investors, and industry experts who will be in attendance but also from the remarkable group we have assembled to serve on our 2023 Board of Directors. This esteemed team of individuals represents the pinnacle of excellence and diversity, bringing a wealth of experience, knowledge, and passion to the table.
The Venture Atlanta 2023 Board of Directors has been carefully selected to ensure a variety of perspectives, backgrounds, and areas of expertise. Each member is dedicated to supporting the growth and success of innovative entrepreneurs, fostering a vibrant and inclusive startup ecosystem, and ensuring that Venture Atlanta continues to be a premier event for connecting entrepreneurs with the resources they need. With their combined experience and commitment to innovation, the Board of Directors is poised to make this year's conference an unforgettable experience for all who attend.
We are thrilled to introduce you to the Venture Atlanta 2023 Board of Directors, featuring some familiar faces as well as some new ones!
Meet the 2023 Venture Atlanta Board of Directors
Venture Atlanta 2023 Chairman

Mark Flickinger - Panoramic Ventures
Mark is a General Partner and the COO at Panoramic Ventures, where he oversees fundraising, investor relations, marketing/branding, talent acquisition, and portfolio acceleration. Before joining BIP Capital in 2015, Mark worked for 4th Strand, a product performance consulting firm that was acquired by Intertek in 2012. Mark has served on the Venture Atlanta Board of Directors since 2021. Read his full bio here >>>
Newly-Added Board Members

Dr. Loretta Daniels - Technology Association of Georgia, Kendall & Kendrick Consulting Group
Dr. Loretta Daniels, director of the Technology Association of Georgia’s Bridge Builders program and CEO and Managing Partner at Kendall & Kendrick Consulting Group, is an expert in organizational leadership, DEI, conflict management, and communication. As an executive leader in the corporate arena, she has served in executive leadership roles such as Chief Executive Officer, Chief Operations Officer, Vice President of Sales and Marketing, Executive Director of Sales Operations, and General Manager. Read her full bio here >>>

AJ Fang - Assurant Ventures
AJ Fang is currently a Partner of Assurant Ventures where he leads investments in Proptech, Auto Tech, and Insurtech. Prior to joining Assurant, AJ was a Senior Vice President at Silicon Valley Bank where he worked with national venture capital firms and focused on providing strategic advisory and venture financings to technology startups. Read his full bio here >>>

Peter Franconi - Fulcrum Equity Partners
Peter is a Senior Vice President of Business Development at Fulcrum Equity Partners, an Atlanta-based growth equity fund that invests in B2B software and healthcare services companies. Having worked at both large and small startups, he understands the challenges entrepreneurs face especially in fast-growing companies. Read his full bio here >>>

M. Cole Jones - RIISE Ventures, VSP Global
M. Cole is a serial entrepreneur, small business champion, and venture catalyst based in Atlanta, GA. He co-founded Covello, an innovation firm that helps enterprises, brands, and high-growth companies ideate and build products, before going on to found RIISE Ventures, a firm focused on reimagining innovation in sports, gaming, and entertainment. He's recognized as a thought leader in corporate innovation and his experience extends beyond his work with ventures, with a track record as a seasoned ecosystem builder with organizations such as VSP Global. Read his full bio here >>>

Anastasia Simon - Techstars Atlanta
Anastasia Simon is the current Investment Principal at Techstars Atlanta & Techstars Impact powered by Cox. She brings a decade of experience in the startup ecosystem, ranging from marketing and business development to venture capital and community building. Anastasia is an experienced operator who has developed programming for the first fully virtual incubator for early-stage proptech companies, managed strategic partnerships with large-scale organizations, and served as a mentor during Facebook’s North American Community Accelerator. Read her full bio here >>>
Venture Atlanta Legacy Board Members

Allyson Eman - Venture Atlanta CEO
Allyson Eman has more than 30 years of marketing, communications, sales leadership, and business development experience. In 2007, Allyson took on the role of Executive Director for the newly created Venture Atlanta annual conference. Allyson has worked with key business leaders across the country and founding organizations Metro Atlanta Chamber, Atlanta CEO Council, and Technology Association of Georgia to build Venture Atlanta. Read her full bio here >>>

Jason Caplain - Bull City Venture Partners
Jason is a General Partner and Co-Founder of Bull City Venture Partners. Prior to co-founding BCVP, Jason co-founded Southern Capitol Ventures. Previously, he was at Red Hat (NYSE:RHT) in their finance group through the successful IPO in 1999. Read his full bio here >>>

Jackie DiMonte - Chicago Ventures
Jackie is currently a partner at Chicago Ventures. Prior to joining Chicago Ventures, she was a principal at Hyde Park Venture Partners, working with portfolio companies such as RoadSync, Podchaser, Fixer, FactoryFix, and PartySlate. Read her full bio here >>>

Alex Estevez - Accel Partners
Mr. Estevez is a Venture Partner with Accel Partners, a global leader in venture capital with past investments in top companies such as Atlassian, Dropbox, Facebook, Jet.com, Lynda.com, Qualtrics, Slack, Squarespace, and Spotify. Read his full bio here >>>

Richard Fraim - Knoll Ventures
Rich is a Partner at Knoll Ventures, an Atlanta-based early-stage venture capital firm that invests in pre-Series A technology businesses focused on B2B markets. He has been active in the southeastern technology ecosystem for more than 10 years. Read his full bio here >>>

David Hartnett - Metro Atlanta Chamber
As Chief Economic Development Officer at the Metro Atlanta Chamber, David leads the team focused on the retention, recruitment, and expansion of existing and start-up companies within key clusters. Read his full bio here >>>

Vanessa Larco - New Enterprise Associates
Vanessa Larco joined NEA as a Partner in 2016 and focuses on Enterprise SaaS and Consumer Services investing. She is passionate about technology, services, and products that enable people to be more productive and efficient at work and at home. Read her full bio here >>>

Scott Lopano - Tech Square Ventures
Scott Lopano is a Principal at Tech Square Ventures where he is responsible for sourcing new companies, deal execution, and supporting the portfolio’s growth. Since joining TSV in 2017, Scott has led the execution of 50+ new investments. Read his full bio here >>>

Palaniswamy “Raj” Rajan - CTW Venture Partners
Raj is currently the Managing Partner of CTW Venture Partners, an early-stage venture capital fund that invests in and assists seed and early-stage entrepreneurs in all industries in Atlanta and the Southeast who are engaged in disruptive innovations and technologies. Read his full bio here >>>

Kim Seals - The JumpFund
Kim Seals is a General Partner at The JumpFund and is an investor in early-stage technology, health care, energy, fintech, and consumer products companies. Since 2013, The JumpFund has invested in more than 30 woman-led, Southeast-based companies across our two venture capital funds. Read her full bio here >>>

Elizabeth Stephens - Noro-Moseley Partners
Elizabeth Stephens joined NMP as a Vice President in January 2020. She supports the firm’s investments in information technology and healthcare companies. Elizabeth currently serves as a board observer for Ekos and Whitebox. Read her full bio here >>>

Emery Waddell - Vocap Partners
Emery is passionate about finding, funding, and furthering high-potential software businesses delivering products that improve lives, in big ways and small. As Principal at Vocap Partners, a Series A venture capital firm focused on B2B software, his primary areas of focus include the future of work and media. Read his full bio here >>>

Ryan Whittemore - Florida Funders
Ryan Whittemore is the Chief Investment Officer for Florida Funders, a hybrid Venture Capital Fund and 1400-member accredited investor syndicate focused on early-stage seed to Series A stage tech. Read his full bio here >>>

Joey Womack - Goodie Nation
Part super-connector, part startup coach, Joey Womack is the Founder/CEO of Goodie Nation, a national support nonprofit that is closing the relationship gap for tech-focused social entrepreneurs and diverse founders. Read his full bio here >>>
We are beyond thrilled to have such a top-tier group of individuals leading the charge for Venture Atlanta 2023. With their guidance and dedication, we believe that this year's conference will surpass all expectations and set new standards for excellence in the world of entrepreneurship and venture capital.
The tech industry has always been known for its rapid growth, innovation, and resilience in times of economic hardship. As we enter a new phase of economic uncertainty, many entrepreneurs and business leaders are looking to the tech industry’s growth as a source of opportunity. In this article, we delve into the current state of the tech industry, highlighting promising technology opportunities, and shedding light on how economic downturns can create a fertile ground for startups and business leaders.
The Current State of the Tech Industry
The tech industry is currently experiencing a period of rapid growth and innovation. Despite economic uncertainty, 2022 was still the second-largest year for investing in companies in the Southeast. The industry has seen a surge in demand for technology and software, driven by the shift to remote work and the increased reliance on digital solutions. According to a report by Gartner, global IT spending is expected to reach a value of over $4.6 trillion in 2023. The increasing adoption of cloud computing, big data analytics, artificial intelligence, and the Internet of Things (IoT) is shaping the industry, offering numerous technology opportunities.
Economic Downturns and the Tech Industry
While economic downturns can be challenging for many industries, the tech industry has historically shown a remarkable ability to weather economic storms. In fact, some of the most successful companies in tech, such as Airbnb, Slack, and Uber, were all founded during economic downturns. This is because economic downturns create a unique set of opportunities for entrepreneurs and startups. Here are some examples.
Reduced Competition
During an economic downturn, many businesses struggle to survive, and some may even fail. This can create a void in the market that can be filled by new companies. With fewer competitors, it can be easier for a new business to establish a foothold and gain market share.
Access to Top Talent
Many people may be out of work or looking for new opportunities. We’ve all seen the headlines detailing tens of thousands of layoffs in the tech industry. This can provide a pool of talented and experienced individuals who may be available for hire. With more talented people available, it can be easier to build a strong team that can help a business succeed.
Lower Costs for Resources
The cost of resources such as office space, equipment, and supplies may be lower during an economic downturn. This can help reduce the upfront costs of starting a new business or investing in an existing one. Additionally, lower costs can help a business be more financially stable in the long run, especially during tough economic times.
Increased Demand for Innovative Solutions
During an economic downturn, businesses may be more willing to try new and innovative solutions to cut costs or improve efficiency. This can create technology opportunities for companies to develop and offer new solutions that meet the changing needs of businesses.
Opportunity for Strategic Acquisitions
At times of economic uncertainty, some companies that are struggling financially may be looking to sell or merge with other companies. This can create opportunities for many growing software companies to acquire new technologies, talent, and customer bases at a lower cost than they would during a more stable economic period.
Opportunities for Tech Industry Growth
The tech industry offers a multitude of opportunities for growth, especially right now.
Software development is an area in particular with lots of opportunity at the moment. With the rise of cloud computing and the increasing demand for software solutions, there is a growing need for talented software developers. Additionally, the growth of the IoT is creating opportunities for companies that specialize in developing hardware and software solutions for connected devices.
Another area for tech industry growth is cybersecurity. With the increasing frequency of cyberattacks, there is a growing demand for cybersecurity solutions and services. This is creating opportunities for startups and established companies alike to develop innovative cybersecurity solutions and services.
Opportunity Knocks: The Technology Sector Outlook
The future of the tech industry looks bright, marked by continued growth and innovation. As the world becomes increasingly connected, the demand for technology solutions continues to rise. Additionally, emerging technologies like blockchain, quantum computing, and augmented reality promise to revolutionize the industry further, creating fresh opportunities for entrepreneurs and startups.
The tech industry remains dynamic, offering a wealth of opportunities for those willing to embrace risk and seize the moment during economic downturns. Staying informed about industry trends and developments and participating in events like Venture Atlanta can position individuals for success.
Atlanta Tech Events to Look Out For
For those looking to get involved in the tech industry, there are a number of events happening in Atlanta that are worth checking out. Render ATL is an annual event that brings together designers, developers, and entrepreneurs to share ideas and collaborate on projects. Startup Atlanta also maintains a calendar of events that is worth checking out for anyone interested in the Atlanta tech scene. Registration for Venture Atlanta 2023 will open in April, so be on the lookout!
FAQ
What is the outlook for the tech sector in 2023?
The outlook for the tech sector in 2023 is generally positive, with continued growth and innovation expected. The demand for technology solutions is expected to continue to rise, particularly in the areas of cloud computing, big data analytics, and the IoT.
What is the outlook of the IT sector?
The outlook for the IT sector is also positive, with continued growth and innovation expected. As the world becomes increasingly connected, the demand for technology solutions is expected to continue to grow, creating new opportunities for those in the IT sector.
What is the future of the tech industry?
The future of the tech industry is bright, with continued growth and innovation on the horizon. New technologies such as blockchain, quantum computing, and augmented reality are poised to revolutionize the tech industry and create new opportunities for entrepreneurs and startups.
Is the technology sector growing?
Yes, the technology sector is growing at a rapid pace. The increasing demand for technology solutions and the rise of new technologies such as the IoT and artificial intelligence are driving growth in the tech industry.
Which area of technology has the most job opportunities?
There are many technologies that offer job opportunities, including software development, cybersecurity, data science, and cloud computing. The demand for skilled professionals in these areas is expected to continue to grow in the coming years.
Silicon Valley Bank has been a friend and supporter of Venture Atlanta for over 16 years. The shocking news surrounding its collapse on March 10 was devastating to so many. Seeing the collapse of a bank that gave countless startups and tech companies the power to chase their dreams was a sobering reminder that the economic cycle is not always pretty. However, in challenging times like these, it’s important for today’s business leaders to step up and provide guidance to their teams. As the fallout from SVB and Signature Bank’s collapse continues to unfold, we wanted to share our thoughts and provide readers with a resource they can use to navigate the storm.
How to Lead in Challenging Times
"The ultimate measure of a man is not where he stands in moments of comfort and convenience, but where he stands at times of challenge and controversy."
- Martin Luther King Jr.
All great leaders (ourselves included) have had to face adversity at some point in their lifetime. Today, more than ever, it is crucial for those courageous individuals to step to the forefront and be an inspirational force for their companies and employees to follow. During our 2022 panel, we spoke to Jeff Immelt, former CEO of GE, about what it takes for companies to be resilient in the face of economic adversity.
1. Seek Out the True Problem Solvers
Not everyone is built for leadership, and that’s okay. The first step in times like these is to identify who is right to assume that responsibility. The best leaders are natural problem solvers.
2. Provide Steady Guidance
It is important for leaders to not panic when times are seemingly at their worst. Great leaders absorb fear and project confidence to their team.
3. Stay Focused on the Future
While things may get worse at any time, remember that there is always a future ahead. Although it can be difficult to keep your chin up in a time like this, stay positive and focused on your ultimate long-term goals. You’ll get through this.
4. Always Hunt for New Opportunities
Whether you’re a small or big business, never be afraid to take risks and go in a new direction. Adaptability can go a long way.
5. Maintain a Sense of Calm
As Immelt said in his fireside chat, “As you’re going through a crisis, give your team things that they can work on. Don’t bend over backwards to scare them.” Keeping your team together is one of the most important things you can do to weather the storm.
If you’re looking to learn more, check out the recap of our full chat with Jeff, including how he helped guide GE through 9/11, the financial crisis of 2008, and the Fukushima Disaster of 2011.
What Comes Next?
"In times of great stress or adversity, it's always best to keep busy, to plow your anger and your energy into something positive."
- Lee Iacocca
We know that since SVB’s collapse, federal regulators also seized Signature Bank to prevent further panic. The Federal Reserve, Treasury Department, and FDIC have jointly announced that depositors will be able to access all of their money, making an exception to the rule that normally insures up to $250,000 max.
What lies ahead is still unclear, though. Here are a couple of things to keep your eyes on, according to Bloomberg.
1. Are Bigger Issues for Banks Like First Republic Still to Come?
As the financial ripples hit other banks, it is important to have a plan in place to make sure your money is safe.
2. Will New Regulations Be Put in Place?
To prevent these types of bank collapses from occurring in the future, it can be assumed that new rules and regulations will be put in place. Will this put a strain on access to credit and venture capital?
How to Move Forward
"Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts."
- Winston Churchill
Venture Atlanta 2022 saw the largest and most diverse lineup of companies yet. Although the economic tides have turned in recent days, it is important to shine a light on the number of innovative businesses out there. Even though today may be challenging, we can build a better future together.
All over social media, especially LinkedIn, leaders including Venture Atlanta alumni are sharing lessons they’ve learned and helpful tips for the road ahead. In a recent post, Rob Kischuk, CEO and founder of Bellwood Labs, gave perspective on how he learned from Silicon Valley Bank’s sudden collapse.
Kischuk says it is important for businesses to make sure their deposits are secured by the FDIC at all times. He also argues for keeping money in a brokerage account, as the FDIC typically insures up to $500,000.
Kischuk and Karen Houghton, CEO and Founder of Infinite Giving, both agree on the importance of cash sweeps. If the $250,000 that is insured doesn’t cover all of your cash, ask your bank if it offers a sweep program. These tend to cover a greater amount of capital and can be a lifesaver if anything goes wrong. Additionally, you may be able to reduce your risk by investing in Treasury Bills, which are fully backed by the U.S. government.
If you’re a business looking for a new financial partner, we’ve identified a couple of options, including Fieldpoint Private, and created a thread that will hopefully uncover more.If you’d like to chat with us, do not hesitate to reach out. Venture Atlanta is here to support and help guide you through this difficult time.
The closing panel of Venture Atlanta 2022 was definitely the most anticipated of the conference. On stage in front of a packed Atlanta Symphony Hall, three sports legends joined Atlanta serial entrepreneur Phyllis Newhouse (CEO of Xtreme Solutions) to discuss the influencer economy and how personal branding is crucial for success and generational wealth. In Venture Atlanta’s Hall of Fame panel, NBA all-timer Julius "Dr. J" Erving and NFL hall-of-famers Jerome Bettis and Marcus Allen shared their personal experiences, values, and personal branding examples that helped each of them shape their careers and build a lasting legacy.
The conversation was candid, inspiring, and at times, hilarious. You can watch the full panel here:
Below are some key takeaways from the discussion.
The Hall of Fame of Values: Consistency, Personality, and Giving Back
When asked about each of their individual “value cards,” the athletes shared what they brought to their teams and carried with them throughout their careers.
Dr. J, one of the most influential and iconic basketball players in the history of the sport, shared that his value card was consistency. He aimed to be a consistent team player and captain, showing up every night to do his best. He operated under the assumption that not every game would be one for the record books, but as long as he could consistently produce, he was playing his role well.
Jerome Bettis, the hall-of-fame Rams and Steelers power running back, said his value card was his personality. He’s always been able to draw people in with his humor and make them feel at ease. "My teammates were drawn in. When I’m able to interact with people and they get to meet me, I love to laugh and joke. As a result, people become disarmed pretty quickly," Bettis said. He credits this strength of his as a driving force of his success, both in football and beyond.
Another hall-of-fame running back in Marcus Allen, who played for the Raiders and the Chiefs in a 16-year NFL career, shared that his value card has always been his love for other people. He started by speaking to the idea of a self-premium that he always put on himself. He knew his worth, but he always valued others and used his platform to give back to his community. "I put a premium on myself, but I love people just as much as I love myself. I’m fortunate that I’ve always been able to give back. Lots of times in sports, you’re being replaced. If you’re a good person, you’ll give that next guy, the replacement, the knowledge they need to succeed. That was always one of my value cards," Allen said.
The Importance of Role Models
All three athletes talked about the role models who inspired them in their journeys. Dr. J listed some of his basketball heroes, including Wilt Chamberlain and Bill Russell, as well as entertainers like Grover Washington Jr. and Bill Cosby.
Jerome Bettis credited his father for modeling hard work and giving him a moral compass. "He was the person I emulated growing up," Bettis said. He also mentioned watching Walter Payton play football and being impressed by his mental toughness. "As a football player, I got to watch Walter Payton from afar when he played the Lions. He wasn't the strongest or fastest, but he had a mental toughness that no one could break. That’s something I added to my game," Bettis said.
For Marcus Allen, his father and coaches were significant influences, and he looked up to Muhammad Ali and Dr. J for their intellect, courage, and grace. "Dr. J has always been someone I’ve looked up to. The intellect, the courage and the grace. Muhammad Ali was someone I always looked up to and the only person I ever really got an autograph from. He and Doc are very alike. I always wanted to be great. But even more, I always wanted to make my parents proud," Allen said.
How to Invest in the Future
The athletes also discussed the importance of investing in the future, both financially and through education. Marcus Allen said he wished he had taken more business courses earlier in his career. He stressed the value of engaging with people and leaving a positive impact on every job, no matter how small.
As we now find ourselves fully entrenched in the influencer economy, Jerome Bettis advised being mindful of social media and how it affects one's personal branding. He emphasized the importance of staying authentic and consistent with who one is as a person. "Be mindful of these things that are very prevalent and weren’t years ago. Be conscious of what you present to the public. Social media doesn’t take a day off. Everything you present is telling a story. If that story is inconsistent with who you are, you’re not being authentic."
Dr. J, who has had major success as a pitchman for various products and companies, shared his approach to building wealth. He emphasized the importance of taking equity instead of cash and investing in companies that align with one's personal values. "To do that early enough would be a big differentiator for me," Dr. J said.
Building Your Brand in the Influencer Economy
The panel discussion was particularly relevant in the context of the influencer economy, where personal branding and social media presence are essential for success. The athletes' stories offer valuable insights for aspiring influencers, entrepreneurs, and anyone interested in building their brand and legacy. Their experiences and personal branding examples offer inspiration and guidance for anyone seeking success and generational wealth.
As social media and personal branding continue to shape the influencer economy, it is essential to build a brand that is consistent with who you are as a person. By being true to yourself and staying authentic, you can build a brand that lasts a lifetime and leaves a positive impact on the world. And, as the athletes on the panel demonstrated, investing in your education, values, and future can help you achieve success, create generational wealth, and truly help you make your dreams come true.
FAQ
How big is the influencer economy?
The influencer economy is estimated to be worth billions of dollars globally, and its growth shows no signs of slowing down. According to a report by Influencer Marketing Hub, the influencer marketing industry reached $16.4B in 2022.
Do influencers contribute to the economy?
Influencers contribute significantly to the economy. Through partnerships with brands, influencers create content that promotes products and services, which generates sales and revenue. Additionally, influencer marketing has become an industry in itself, providing jobs for creators, marketers, and other professionals.
Is the influencer economy sustainable?
The long-term sustainability of the influencer economy is uncertain, as it is heavily dependent on social media platforms and the changing preferences of consumers. However, as long as there is demand for social media content and consumer attention, there will likely be a place for influencers in the economy.
What is an example of personal branding?
Personal branding is creating a consistent and authentic image of yourself across multiple channels, such as social media, blogs, and personal websites. This can include using a distinct color scheme, typography, and messaging to convey your values, personality, and professional expertise. Personal branding may also be exemplified in the types of industries an individual chooses to associate with. A strong personal brand can help you stand out in a competitive market and attract new opportunities.
How do you find your target market?
To find your target market, start by identifying the people who are most likely to benefit from your product or service. Consider factors such as age, gender, location, income, interests, and purchasing habits. Conducting market research, analyzing customer data, and testing your product with a small group of potential customers can also help you understand your target market and refine your messaging and branding to appeal to them. Additionally, social media platforms offer various tools to target specific demographics, behaviors, and interests, which can help you reach your ideal customers.
Looking to engage and retain your startup employees while preparing them for leadership roles? A recent study by PwC shows that providing adequate learning and development (L&D) opportunities might be a good place to start. The study found that millennials consider “training and development” to be the most important benefit their employer can provide. As the largest workforce generation in the US continues to grow, organizations big and small are starting to shift their L&D perspective from “nice to have” to “need to have.”
With deadlines to meet and another round to close, it’s easy to put off investments with a clear and immediate ROI. Don’t fall into this trap. Investing in L&D reduces employee churn and helps prepare these employees to move into leadership roles quickly. The latter will be especially important when your company starts to take off and there’s sudden pressure to scale the business. Regardless of industry or the demographic of your team, an engaged employee is a critical component of any business, and it’s time for startups to embrace L&D to make it happen.
Here are five ideas to help you get started establishing a L&D strategy at your business to help your team grow and adapt faster:
1. Clarify your learning objectives
Before you begin investing in your startup’s learning and development strategy, think through the outcomes you’re hoping to accomplish. After all, you steer a lean ship and need to maximize your investment. Are you hoping to reduce employee churn? Increase project turnaround? Minimize client turnover? Align these goals with the skills your team will need to develop to meet them.
2. Conduct a skills analysis
Now that you have a clear idea of the goals you’re hoping to achieve, determine where the skill gaps are. This can be accomplished through employee surveys, assessments, or simple observation. If you are implementing L&D with the sole purpose of keeping your team engaged, asking each member what they would like to learn can allow for active participation and ownership. This can also help you identify the performance issues lying beneath the surface.
3. Look to your internal team
Whenever possible, use your connections to identify outside thought leaders, speakers, and experts to join your team for a lunch and learn. If you don’t have the resources to bring in outside expertise consistently, look within. Not only will turning to your employees save you money, it will also give them a chance to flex their presentation skills.
4. Don’t forget about soft skills
Did you know that mastering soft skills can account for 75% of long term job success? In a business environment where things change fast, you must arm your team with skills to help them adapt and thrive under a variety of situations. While technical skills are important for getting the job done, it’s the training of soft skills like communication, empathy, and listening that have been shown to deliver the highest return on investment.
5. Choose one day a week
Commit to one day of the week that will serve as your startup’s official day of learning. For example, every Wednesday, bring your team together for an open discussion to share one thing each member learned that week. Or, dedicate Monday mornings to micro-learning moments, round robining the preparation and presentation duties.
FAQs
What is an L&D strategy?
An L&D (Learning & Development) strategy is a comprehensive plan for improving the skills, knowledge, and performance of employees in an organization. It outlines the organization's goals for employee training and development and the methods by which these goals will be achieved. An effective L&D strategy takes into account the current and future needs of the business and its employees, aligns with the organization's overall strategy and culture, and is regularly reviewed and updated to ensure its ongoing effectiveness.
How do you create an L&D strategy?
To create an effective L&D strategy, follow these steps:
- Assess current skills and competencies: Conduct a thorough analysis of the current skills and competencies of employees, as well as the future skills the organization will need.
- Identify goals: Based on the assessment, identify specific goals for employee training and development, aligned with the organization's overall strategy.
- Determine budget and resources: Determine the budget and resources available for L&D activities and allocate them to support the goals identified.
- Evaluate existing programs: Evaluate existing training programs to see if they are still relevant and effective, and make changes as needed.
- Develop a mix of programs: Develop a mix of training programs that includes both formal and informal learning opportunities, as well as online and offline learning.
- Encourage employee involvement: Encourage employee involvement in the L&D process, such as through surveys and suggestion boxes.
- Implement and monitor: Implement the L&D strategy and monitor its effectiveness through regular evaluations and feedback from employees and managers.
- Continuously review and improve: Continuously review and improve the L&D strategy to ensure it stays relevant and effective in supporting the organization's goals and the needs of its employees.
What are the benefits of implementing an L&D program in a startup?
- Increased employee engagement and job satisfaction
- Improved productivity and performance
- Increased retention of top talent
- Enhanced competitiveness and ability to attract new talent
- Development of a learning culture that supports growth and innovation.
How do I measure the success of an L&D program?
The following trends are common indicators of a successful L&D strategy:
- Increased employee satisfaction and engagement levels, as measured through regular surveys and feedback
- Improved employee performance and productivity, as measured through regular performance evaluations
- Increased uptake and participation in L&D programs
- Feedback from managers and employees on the impact of the L&D program on their skills and development
What role should managers play in supporting L&D programs?
Managers should be active supporters and champions of the L&D program and encourage their team members to participate. They should provide regular feedback and support for employees and help them apply L&D strategies to their job. Managers should also ensure that L&D programs are aligned with the needs of the team and overall business strategy.
How can I encourage employees to participate in an L&D program?
- Make L&D opportunities easily accessible
- Offer incentives for participation
- Offer a mix of programs that cater to different learning styles and preferences
- Foster a culture of continuous learning
- Provide opportunities for employees to share their learning experiences and insights with their peers
Want more inspiration? See how these leading tech companies are leveraging L&D.
Over the past 16 years, Venture Atlanta has become a staple in the Atlanta startup ecosystem. Our impact is profound and far-reaching, and it all begins with our annual conference. To date, we’ve helped connect 760 alumni companies with over $7.5 billion in capital. In 2022 alone, Venture Atlanta alumni raised over $1 billion.
But those are just the numbers.
If you’ve ever been to a Venture Atlanta conference, you’ll agree that the energy that fills the building is nothing short of electric. It’s where the Southeast’s brightest and most promising tech companies get their moment in the spotlight among some of the nation’s top investors in tech. This experience is the ultimate catalyst for connection—where innovation and investment unite. To put it quite simply, it’s where magic happens.
But in order for the magical spirit of innovation to ignite, there must be a spark. Venture Atlanta is that spark.
Announcing Venture Atlanta 2023: Ignite
We’re back for another year of sparking brilliant ideas, building business relationships, and discovering incredible opportunities. This year's theme, "Ignite," is a reflection of the energy, passion, and drive that Venture Atlanta brings to the Southeast's tech ecosystem.
At Venture Atlanta 2023, attendees can expect to:
- Meet and connect with leaders of the most promising tech companies in the Southeast
- Learn from industry experts and leaders through keynote speeches, panel discussions, and workshops
- Network with investors, entrepreneurs, and other professionals in the tech ecosystem
- Discover new opportunities and potential partnerships
"There are some events that you circle on the calendar knowing that you'll really benefit from the quality education, entertainment, and connections there. Venture Atlanta is definitely one of those!"
Valuable connections ignite for everyone when they attend Venture Atlanta. For investors and founders, this can mean knocking out weeks’ worth of meetings in just a couple of days. For sponsors, this can mean exposure to the exact audience you’ve been trying to reach. This is all sparked by our annual conference, but the energy carries throughout the year through an array of events, partnerships, and opportunities that feed through Venture Atlanta.
Last year was our most successful conference yet, with 85 selected companies representing 14 sectors. We also had 11 different states represented—a testament to the impact Venture Atlanta has made across the entire Southeast region. Additionally, we welcomed our most attendees ever with a sold-out conference of over 1,300 people.
Join us in our return to the elegant Woodruff Arts Center and Atlanta Symphony Hall as we level up the experience yet again. Attendees this year can expect some exciting new experiences and activations within our event space, but you’ll just have to wait and see for yourself what we’ve got in store.
At Venture Atlanta 2022, we had the opportunity to hear from some amazing leaders and innovators, including:
- Atlanta Mayor Andre Dickens
- Marty Flanagan - President & CEO of Invesco
- Jeff Immelt - Former CEO & Chairman of GE
- Dennis Lockhart - Former President & CEO of the Federal Reserve Bank of Atlanta
- Julius Winfield Erving (“Dr. J”) - NBA Hall of Famer
We can’t wait to surprise and delight attendees once again this year, so stay tuned for our official lineup announcement.
Mark your calendars! Venture Atlanta 2023 will take place from Wednesday, Sept. 27th to Thursday, Sept. 28th. Sparks will fly and ideas will ignite—you don’t want to miss this. Sign up for our newsletter and stay tuned for more information and updates on the conference as we get closer to the date.
When it comes to leading through hard economic times, Jeff Immelt knows a thing or two about crisis leadership.
After officially becoming the CEO of GE just four days before 9/11, Immelt almost instantaneously found himself and the company in a period of crisis. At the time, the company had a part in insuring the World Trade Center and also owned NBC.
In an afternoon “fireside chat” on the first day of Venture Atlanta 2022, moderator Vanessa Larco, Partner at New Enterprise Associates, spoke with Jeff Immelt, who was CEO of GE from 2001 to 2017. With decades of experience, Immelt offered up some lessons in leadership for founders and investors who may be panicking in the midst of a potential further economic downturn in the year ahead.
To summarize, Immelt believes we are not in a time of economic crisis. Instead, this is just part of a regular cycle. He was keen on how you should approach investment decisions differently in hard economic times, and he also offered some advice on how you should manage your team at a time like this.
Check out the full discussion with Jeff Immelt below.
Leading Through Difficult Financial Environments: Fireside Chat
Vanessa Larco: Hi everyone. Welcome to our chat about leading through turbulent times here with Jeff Immelt, former CEO and Chairman of GE. Really excited to have this chat and excited to be in Atlanta.
Jeff Immelt: It's great to be back in Atlanta. I've met so many old friends here today, and Vanessa's a Georgia Tech grad, so it’s almost like home.
Vanessa: Yeah! So leading through financial crisis. I'm excited to dig into this with you because you led GE through some very interesting times. And now you sit on several boards from Series A companies like Arkestro, all the way to post-IPO companies like Twilio and Desktop Metal. So you're seeing everything across the board and hopefully applying some of the things you've experienced in the past to these startups.
So Jeff, are we in a time of crisis?
Jeff: No. I think, you know, being around in 2008 and 2009 or some of the other really volatile things I've seen, you know, like when you were afraid to get up in the morning to read the Wall Street Journal or turn on CNBC, that's a crisis. This is a cycle. This is a classic cycle. I think what makes it feel like a crisis, you know, Vanessa, is the fact that we've had a whole generation of business people that haven't seen inflation, that haven't seen interest rates go up. So it feels maybe a little bit more stark than it really is. If this had happened in like 1997, you'd say, ah, just another cycle, right? So I think one aspect is just to get people calm and figure out ways to get through this in the best way possible.
Vanessa: Well, I'm excited to talk to you about what you've learned while leading one of the biggest companies on the planet. I think you win the award for craziest first week in a gig that I've ever heard. So why don't you tell us a little bit about your first week as CEO at GE?
Jeff: Yeah, so I became CEO on September 7th, 2001 and September 11th happened like three days later. And you know, the world just kind of changed. We were in the insurance business, so we insured the World Trade Center. We owned 1,200 aircraft, we owned NBC, we had financial services, so basically the crisis was all around us. I think through that and other things that I've gone through Vanessa, there are some attributes that are the same as you go through these crises and cycles.
The first one is: a leader has to absorb fear. You can't be a generator of fear. You have to kind of give steady guidance.
You have to stay focused on what's going on. It's like driving a car through a rainstorm. You turn down the radio, you turn on the lights, you do the same thing. I think whether it's a small company or a big company, you have to be very deliberate in your steps. You don't want to panic, you don't want to take missteps. You have to take one step after another.
You have to, in an organization, find the problem solvers. Not everybody's a problem solver, and in fact, very few people are really a problem solver. You have to seek them out.
But maybe the most important thing you have to do in a crisis is hold two truths at the same time. One, is that things can always get worse, right? Doesn't matter how bad they are today, they can always get worse. Trust me, I've been there. But the other one is there's gonna be a future. If you go back to that moment in time, between, let's say September 11th and October 1st, 2001, we loaned about $20 billion to airlines to help them from going bankrupt. We took the long view: these are our customers. We didn't know what was gonna happen. We made an incredible amount of money on the things that we did. If you talk to KKR or Blackstone, they acquired all the aviation supply chain right after 9/11. Private equity went out there and acquired all of 'em. So if you can invest in a good business at a really dark time, that's when investors really have a chance to make supernormal returns. And so that's, you know, that's how you make it through a crisis. Some defense, some offense.
Vanessa: What about priorities? Do priorities shift in times of crisis? What are the top priorities?
Jeff: I think now I'll put my small company investor hat on. In a time like crisis, get cash, get it now. Don't worry about where your stock price goes. Don't worry about where your valuation goes. Get cash, right? Give yourself a chance to play another day. And that's where I see people tend to focus on the wrong things and you get swallowed up by events, but you have to keep that as a number one priority.
I think the second one, Vanessa, is to keep focused on what it is you want your company to do in the first place. Like if you're running a small company and you're having margin issues and you cut R&D, you're just gonna keep cycling down the same path, right? So make those kinds of trade offs.
And the last thing is try to find ways to look for opportunity. Because there are always gonna be other people that are out there that aren't gonna take the same long term view that you're gonna take.
I think that's the kind of priorities: cash, solve the right problem, stay focused on the long term, and you’ll get through things.
Vanessa: Yep. So another period of your leadership that I find really interesting is the earthquake in Japan in 2011 and the nuclear meltdown that ensued. Tell us about that day, because I have so many questions.
Jeff: So you've got, like, this is a real hit parade here.
Vanessa: I'm going through like all the worst times in your life, just like in order.
Jeff: No, but this is kind of an interesting perspective. You know, we made the reactors—the nuclear reactors. They were in Fukushima. It was just this horrible disaster. And you never know when a crisis is gonna come your way. So you just have to maintain a sense of calm as it comes. And I had been on a global trip, I was actually in Australia at the time, and this was really scary because there was nobody that could get to the plant. There was a helicopter that was sending images, but you couldn't see what was going on. So it's like 4:00 AM in Australia. I'm doing this crisis phone call. There's a CNN scroll saying, you know, “Fukushima Disaster,” “Worst ever,” “All GE reactors,” “Gonna have to shut down Tokyo and Los Angeles,” you know..
Vanessa: Food supplies potentially contaminated.
Jeff: My general council's freaking out and saying, “Oh, we gotta do all this stuff,” and I end that meeting and I have to go down and do an all-employee meeting with a thousand employees who had nothing to do with the nuclear business.
So, you know, I teach a business school class, and my students all say, we get taught about transparency. Good leaders have to be transparent. You gotta be transparent all the time. So if I was transparent at that moment in time, I would've walked in that room with a thousand people and said, “We are screwed. Catch the next plane, join a different company, whatever it takes,” right? Just go, you know.
But that's not what you do, right? You say, “Hey, we’ve got this little thing going on in Japan. Don't worry, our best people are working on it, but let's talk about your business. Let's talk about where we are here.” And, I think as you're going through a crisis or if you're in a small company now and you're worried, give your team things that they can work on, don't lean over backwards to scare them. Give them problems they can solve. Put the cycle in terms they can understand. And I think that's how you keep teams together during the worst times.
Vanessa: Yeah. You had to make a lot of decisions in these times of crises, right? We talked about how you kept GE afloat after the 9/11 situation, also in Fukushima, like lots of decisions get made in a short amount of time that could potentially impact the entire trajectory of your business. A lot of the leaders here are making decisions with very imperfect data or little data, but it just feels like in times of crisis, it adds a whole new layer for.
Jeff: For sure. I think the first thing is, whether you run a big company or a small company, it helps to have a point of view. You know, in other words, when you don't have perfect data, you need things that kind of shape your perspective. During those times, you need to make decisions on how much data you need to have before you make the decision, because you can't ever have perfect data.
Some leaders like to make decisions with two or three people. Some leaders like to make decisions in big rooms with lots of people around. I favored big rooms because I wanted to get as many different voices as you can. Knowing what to do when you make a decision is actually quite easy. It's actually super easy. Like knowing when to do it is the hard part, right? So, getting your own sense of time and then ask for help.
I ask for help. Decisions come at you fast and furiously. And we talk about crisis versus cycle. So after Lehman Brothers went bankrupt, that actually wasn't the worst day. The worst day was when Washington Mutual was sold to JP Morgan. All the bond holders got wiped out and the Goldman Sachs bankers came to Fairfield where I was working Friday evening and said, “You guys gotta go out and raise $15 or $20 billion next week,” right? This is to support GE Capital. Now some of you guys, that seems like a big number. It is a big number, but the problems are the same. It's just more zeros that I had to deal with, right?
So it took a while for them to convince me. I called a board meeting Saturday morning, and this was before Zoom, so it was just like a telephone post in the middle of a conference room. My CFO, my general counsel, me, and 12 or 15 board members on the call, you know, “Hey guys, kind of rough out there. We're gonna go raise $15 billion next week.” You know, just dead silence on the other lines. “Is that okay with you?” You know, you guys—and dead silence, right? It was just too much to bear. But things were moving so quickly, you had to kind of have that kind of interaction. And Roger Penske, who a lot of you may know because you're race car drivers and things like that, he was a really great board member and he shouts out over the phone, “Hey guys, good thinking, let's go get the money. It's the right thing to do. Good luck. Let's go do it.” And then like 12 other people say, let's go get the money, let's go get the money, right?
You need advice, you need people with you to give you the right kinds of input at the right time. And that's the way crises work, right? You gotta make the decision. We made the decision, we got the money, and at that moment in time, we were kind of safe for whatever was gonna happen in the financial crisis.
Vanessa: You skipped through that. You got the money, right? Like trying to fundraise when banks are all going under—
Jeff: Yeah, so here's a line I always use with founders when they're really in trouble, which I have a bunch of 'em now. I say, “You know what, Rick,” or whomever, “This is only the 17th worst thing I've ever seen.” You know, Just to try to break the ice a little bit. Like I've seen 32 things just like that, right? And so it's just conveying that you can work through these problems in a constructive way as time goes. In this case, we actually had [Warren] Buffett loan us $3 billion. That really underwrote the whole transaction and it took us six hours,
Vanessa: I'm sorry, six hours to raise?
Jeff: Yeah.
Vanessa: But, but you had to get Buffett, like Buffett was a catalyst.
Jeff: That was the key. And David Solomon, who's a good friend of mine, he's the CEO of Goldman Sachs now. He was kinda leading the equity raise. So he and I were set up in my office together with my CFO and yeah, it was probably the single best under-pressure decision I'd made in a 40 year business career. And I just got crushed, externally for it, right? In terms of having to go out and raise money and things like that.
But, you know, I think if you're gonna start a company—which I hope there's lots of entrepreneurs out here, or lots of good investors, you just have to be willing to get criticized. And the decisions that you make. I would say nobody really has thick skin. You just choose to take the high road. You have to find ways to kind of get input and keep going even when you're being criticized. And those were the kinds of times we were living in then, right? There's companies out there right now whose stock is probably down 30% this year, and the CEO is having probably the best year they've ever had in terms of the quality of decisions they're making, the steps they're taking for their future, and you just have to be contextual.
Vanessa: Yeah, I agree with that. Speaking of access to capital, how do you think of it in general? Like today it seems bumpy. We have entrepreneurs saying it's really hard to fundraise. It's one of the hardest fundraisers I've ever had, even though my business is doing great, right? Others that are saying, I just raised 150 million from XYZ over a text thread. How do we hold these things?
Jeff: It's a great question because there's money out there for sure, right? Even though the stock market’s down, interest rates are up, there’s lots of financial pressures around the system, but there's still quite a bit of dry powder that funds have, quite a bit of capital that's out there to be invested. And I think right now, if you're on the investor side, the tendency Vanessa, as you know, is to take care of your own portfolio first. So you go through the decision of how much money am I gonna have to put in my existing companies versus how much new money is out there to be had. There's that element and then there's other elements that say this is the best time to be doing investments because I'm gonna get a more economical perspective, right?
So, if you're running a fund, if you're an investor, you've gotta keep looking for good investments. Because ultimately that's how you get paid. Ultimately, you can't sit on your hands forever. I think if I was the founder raising money right now, I would put more of an emphasis on raising more at a lower valuation and raising less at a higher valuation and the sands of time, you can make all this up. But I see people being really silly about making short term decisions around, you know, not taking a down round or something like that, which I just think is kind of silly. And the last thing I'd say is look, I spent 36 years as an operator, five years as an investor. I love investors.
Vanessa: No offense taken.
Jeff: You know, operators just are more sanguine during cycles because you always feel like you can figure stuff out over time. Investors tend to get more excited as these cycles go through, right? So, you know, I'll sit in a board meeting where most of the board are venture capitalists or investors. We'll talk things through and then I'll say to the founder, here, come on, let's take a walk. Don't listen to that stuff, okay? Just keep going down this path.
Vanessa: I’m so glad we're on a board together.
Jeff: Keep going down this path because they're gonna get you in trouble. You know, there's gonna be another day. So you, you know, together we make it work, right? You know, like cycles are such a part of business. They're such a constructive part of business that it's not a terrible thing to be going through kind of what we're going through right now,
Vanessa: But companies will get wiped out.
Jeff: For sure. But you know, I would say Vanessa, money was so easy for so long. There's probably too many companies. There's probably too many things doing the same thing. Too many companies doing the same thing. There's nothing wrong with that. That's all part of the creative, part of the company building process. So there's nothing inherently wrong with that. But I think a little consolidation and a little bit of creative destruction is not a bad thing. And it's probably gonna happen in this cycle.
I would tell my friends when I went out to venture, most people that live my life either go into private equity or venture. And I had started my career selling plastic at GE, so I dealt with small entrepreneurs who ran molding shops and things like that. And I learned so much from them very early in my career and that's what I wanted to do, was work with kind of founders and entrepreneurs. And you know, I just think that the company building process is more important and that's kind of what we're gonna go through right now, right? We’re just gonna have to take it step-by-step and try to understand that during cycles is when some of the biggest opportunities exist.
Vanessa: I agree with that, but can we unpack that just a little bit? Like why? Why is it during these downturns, we hear about that all the time. Like, “This is the best time to start a business.” And I talk to founders like, “This sucks.” Like, I'm trying to fundraise. It's not a great time.
Jeff: Yeah, no, good times are better than bad times for sure. So let's be clear.
Vanessa: Okay. Because everyone's like hyping this up.
Jeff: Let's be clear on that. I think the difference is, if you were doing a company that did like APIs for CRM systems or enterprise software systems and evaluation is 75 times revenue, you just sit there and say that just doesn't make sense. You know, you go through the time period like we had the last three years, really good companies were uninvestable because the economic dynamics just didn't make any sense. So, that to me is the positive benefit of getting down to a more, I would say, realistic returnable investment level, number one. Number two, you know, you watch CNBC every day and let's say a company has a bad number, the stock goes down 10%, and the sell-side analyst downgrades the stock. Okay, thanks. You know, so I think there's so much knee jerk reaction that goes on during cycles that you just get good deals because there's a lot of bad investors out there. And they give you the chance to kind of pile in. So, I don't say it as you need bad cycles to get better. I say it more that you really make good investment decisions when the risk-reward is out of balance, and the risk-reward tends to be out of balance on bad days more than good ones.
Vanessa: Yeah. That's what we're seeing, I think. But I am seeing a lot of fear. So a lot of investors are paralyzed by this fear, and not to blame capital. I see some leaders also being a little paralyzed by this fear and like, “I'm just gonna fundraise when it gets better, it's bound to get better.” And so you have some people that are kind of sitting it out. Does that last, how does this play out?
Jeff: Yeah, I don't think so. Again, I think the dynamics, if you're running private investment is if you raise money, it probably needs to be redeployed in a reasonable time period. So you're gonna have more people leaning in to do good deals over time, right? And we'll see how the next couple months go. But that's my expectation.
I think that the presentations, you know, if I were running a small company looking to raise funds, my pitch would basically be the essence of what I do—so here's how it still fits even in this environment—but if I raise money now, we can last four years and at that time we're gonna have a liquidity event. So what your investment right now will allow you and me to do together is eliminate a C round, or eliminate another investment step. So I would put on a hat that's investor friendly as ways to approach where the investors are right now. And that's kind what I look for. Basically I sit down and evaluate any of these companies, it's kind of like: size of the idea, fundamentally, is it a high margin, high investment, a low investment, high margin, you know, those kinds of things. I look at the ecosystem of who's the competitors, who are the customers, how good's the team, and then who a buyer could be. So every time I sit down to look through a pitch like this, I kind of mentally go through, you know, okay, this is a small idea, but it's a small check. It's got the chance to be an 80% gross margin business with low capex. The competitors all stink. It's solving a problem for the customer, but the competitors stink. This is a third time founder, highly bankable. And Workday could buy them, right? Okay, I'll invest. Sounds pretty good, let's go. So that's kind of what I go through. And then, you know, in a crisis when you're trying to raise the next round, you have to be able to pitch back to an investor like me, how one of those five things gets better and how your approach is working, right?
Vanessa: Yeah, that’s key. And then communicating with your team, right? Your teams probably at this time are like, “Am I at the right place? Should I go somewhere big and safe? Should I drop out of the workforce?
Jeff: It's a great question. And particularly right now, you know, Vanessa, because it's just been such a fragile workforce, particularly in Silicon Valley, but really everywhere, you know, with kind of the high turnover, high churn, great resignation, quiet quitting and all that stuff. So I think you're always trying to, in a crisis, trying to strike the right balance between being really transparent and not promotional. You know, in other words, truthful. But at the same time, you have to say to people, “Here's where we're going next. Here's where we're going next. I know it was hard. We just had to lay off 80 people. It's 20% of our workforce. I hate to do it. It's incredibly hard,” but show, “In two years, here's where we're gonna be. This is the company we're building, here's what you're signing up to do.” And so, I find that founders kind of whiff on the day two story. They spend a lot of time on the day one story, but don't spend enough time on where we're going next. And that's why people stay. You know, I just think when I joined small private boards or even small public boards, I always would say to people, look, I'll join the board, but whatever you do, don't put me on the audit committee. Whatever you do, it's no fun. I'm not good at it. You know, put me on the comp committee. Being on the comp committees really stinks these days. Right. More stock options. What's working. Things like that. So I think for all of you who are founders, really understanding how people work and why they work, right?
I just found that by and large, the people I was working with, they really didn't know how work got done. They didn't have a strong enough connection with the people that did the work with them and for them. And as a result, we were always chasing the symptom and not the cause. I ran a super big company, more than 300,000 people. I didn't do every job, but I knew how basically every job inside the company got done. And I always spent a fair amount of time trying to see it through their eyes. And I just think that, you know, Vanessa, there's just not a strong enough connection between the leadership teams and the people doing the work. And that's how this stuff gets outta control.
Vanessa: I could not agree more. And I see a lot more of that discipline in leaders of more traditional companies and a lot less of it at startups.
Jeff: See how I get treated? You know? We sit around an investment meeting, people say, well, like, this company would be so great, except they have to sell out to those big company jerks all the time. They're so stuck on their ways.
Vanessa: Yeah, I'm sorry. Well, you know board members—we're both on boards. We apparently have very different views of that, but what is the role of a board member in times of crisis?
Jeff: Great question. So I think for all of us, for the founders or people running companies, you need to see your board on the worst day possible. In other words, don't think about it when things are good and you're making your numbers and you're raising money, think about your board on the absolute worst day you can imagine. Because quite honestly, when things are good, you don't really need your board that much. Right? But when things are bad, you need 'em a lot. And I think you need to be able to go around the room and kind of see who's really committed to the company, what kind of skill set they bring. And in a time of crisis, you have some very specific swim lanes that people have to stay in. One is funding, where investors can be immensely helpful. If cash is what you need, funding is really important. If you're operationally running outta cash, you're gonna need a different set of hands in that. And so I would say a lot of the boards that I'm on don't have the right skill sets around the table to kind of make it through the kinds of environments that we're in.
I always view my role, particularly with startups, as a helper. Because I ran a conglomerate and I've done business for a long time, I can walk into a room and say, okay, this leader needs somebody that can help her sell. This leader needs somebody that can hire a finance person for them. So I think for more experienced people like me, it's finding the right niche and where it goes. But, you know, I probably talk to three CEOs every day. Every day. Because they're going through a really tough time and, you know, it's just such a lonely job, particularly in a crisis. You're getting criticized by everybody, and it's helpful to just have somebody that they can talk to.
Vanessa: Yeah. I loved when you bucketed board members in three categories. I tried not to take offense, but why don't you share those three buckets?
Jeff: I just think—and it's true for public companies as well—there's always people that just wander onto boards. They're perfectly fine people, but they just didn't have enough to do, want a little extra money, you know, and they're okay and they're on every, by the way, I'm describing every board that's ever existed. And then there's people that are really expert, but pretty narrow, in other words, they're very expert at investing or fundraising, but not broad in terms of operational and things like that. And then there's people that have seen it before, have done it before, maybe not as good at investing or things like that. And I tell the founders, you need to mentally, you need to understand who's kind of with you, who's gonna be in it, who's gonna be in the trench with you when you can't raise money or when you have a really bad quarter or things like that. And I think if you're really engaged in that way, it makes it easier to have the really hard conversations, which you have to have when you say, look, I know you founded the company, you're awesome. I love you, but you can't stay in your job. You've only earned that if you've been with them, if they know that you've tried to help. Right? So it's hard.
Again, if you're trained, if you grow up the way I grew up, you know, the company comes first. And it's always hard with founder-led companies to make that slight separation between the needs of the founder and the needs of the company. Most times, there is a hundred percent overlap, but sometimes, particularly in crises, there can be daylight. And that's some of the harder stuff you have to deal with.
Vanessa: Yep. Well, Jeff, it's been amazing. I think the takeaways I came away with were: not a crisis, in a cycle. It's healthy. So founders should be opportunistic about the opportunities and then also just be really smart around who you have around the table at your board.
Jeff: Have good people, stay first principles. You know, being on the West Coast for the last five years, the company I appreciate a lot is Apple, who at scale, they just have this product headset that, you know, I'm sure it deviates a little bit, but they stay true to it. And I think leaders that have a good first principle are gonna do well, even in a tough crisis.
The last thing I'd say is, I know we have to go, but this could be an awesome ecosystem for venture. This country needs cities like Atlanta to steal more of the venture headset. You've got great universities, you've got a big company ecosystem, you've got everything it takes. If anything, you gotta be bigger, you gotta do more, faster. But you know, particularly after COVID, people don't want to necessarily hang out in San Francisco, Boston, New York anymore. Atlanta should rule.
Vanessa: Yeah, I agree with that. Thank you all so much. Thanks, Jeff.
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As the Venture Atlanta 2022 Headline Sponsors, we conducted a Tech Survey of attendees focused on the future direction of the tech community in Atlanta and the Southeast. The Tech Survey results highlight six key VA takeaways -- providing guidance for our tech directional compass next year.
1. Tech Talent Remains a Key for Growing Tech Companies – and More Talent is Now Available. Recent tech layoffs have increased the talent pool, and for the first time in memory there is a surplus of talent. Also, many California companies are jettisoning employees who may be moving back home to the East Coast.
2. We Need More Angel Funding. For Southeastern entrepreneurs, finding angel money remains a serious problem. Often, early stage companies have to prove their product-market fit by securing referenceable pilot customers. Until the economy turns around, this problem is likely to persist.
3. Valuations are Lower – and VC Funds are Still Active. Venture investors generally have money and are trying to deploy it. VCs are in the business of “selling” money and are unlikely to shut down just because of a bad economy. To the contrary, many funds view this as a buying opportunity with deals more in line with realistic valuation metrics.
4. Increased Coordination among “Tech” Cities in the Region is Important to Attract Funding. Despite the commonalities among cities in the Southeast, there is little coordination and virtually no common effort to attract investors to the area as a unified region. Several investors have viewed our region as a treasure trove of opportunity with bootstrapped, fast growing tech companies. It may be time to coordinate the region’s message to attract more funding.
5. Brand Awareness is Critical to Promoting our Tech Community. Atlanta and the Southeast need to embark on an active branding campaign to promote tech investment and migration to our cities and region. We need to establish a consistent drumbeat of our tech successes and a coordinated branding campaign to attract talent and funding to the region.
6. VCs Need to be Focused on Industry/Market Specialization and Building Personal Relationships with Founders – The Survey revealed our entrepreneurs are looking for more than money -- they want investors with specialized industry knowledge and contacts with prospective customers and strategic partners. For the founders in our region (especially ones with profitable, growing tech companies), personal rapport with the investor is critical.
In the final analysis, our Tech Survey revealed these important facts:
(1) Venture Atlanta 2022 has become the premier venture conference on the East Coast
(2) Atlanta is the capital of the region and epicenter of tech growth in the region
(3) Our region’s growing tech talent, Fortune 100 headquarters, and business friendly environment bode well for another successful venture Atlanta in 2023.
John Yates -- Morris Manning Martin
Nick Foreste -- Morris Manning Martin
Michael Valerio – Cherry Bekaert
Drew Graves – ExtensisHR
JC Boyanton – Truist Bank
Coming from one of the largest venture capital conferences in the Southeast, you may be surprised to hear this from us…
Cash is not king.
At least when it comes to attracting and retaining talented employees, that is. Finding and retaining talent has never been more difficult than in the post-COVID labor market, where, for the most part, candidates are now in the driver’s seat. With more choices than ever before, employees can easily hop across different companies. This means that employers need to think outside of the box when hiring talent.
In the opening panel of Venture Atlanta 2022, panel host Gabby Sirner-Cohen of FullStory spoke with the following entrepreneurs and founders:
- Nicole North, Partner at Lightspeed Venture Partners
- Melissa Taunton, Partner at NEA
- Peter Clarke, Partner at Accel
Together, the panel discussed what we’ve deemed the “Talent Wars,” the latest era of hiring and retaining talent. As it turns out, the best employee retention strategies are less about dollar compensation and more about creating value and building a strong culture.
The Talent Wars Panel Discussion
Gabby Sirner-Cohen: Hello everyone and good morning. I'm Gabby and I lead all things people at FullStory, and I am delighted to be here today with three amazing talent partners, Pete, Melissa, and Nicole, who each represent the talent partners from their respective venture capital funds.
I can't help but be struck by the fact that when this group came together when this panel was conceived of in the spring, wow, what a different world we were in. Every candidate I was talking to had three, four offers that they were all juggling. And we as software companies, tech companies, we were all trying to hire and we had to navigate all of these competing interests. And fast forward six months; it's a different world. The economy, inflation, so many things have changed, and yet it's still challenging to find great people. And when we started, we had a prep call last week and we started talking about what, what does "talent wars" mean in this day and age? Pete, you had a spicy take on the name of this panel, Talent Wars. What do you have to say about that?
Peter Clarke: A little something, I guess, for those that have the misfortune of hearing me ramble on about this. But, never been a fan of the war analogy when it comes to people to begin with. So usually always push back on that. It's definitely challenging. It's hard, but always sort of thinking like, what's the war about? Who are you at battle with? Oftentimes it puts you in this mentality of, I'm fighting with another company for this person. And you tend to leave the person out of the decision.
So it turns out that, you know, recruiting people, hiring and building a great team is a bit of a two-sided marketplace. And lo and behold, the person on the other side of that conversation has the ability to make their own decisions, decide where they want to go, figure out what's the right fit. And so this idea that I'm just sort of battling against some other company or I'm fighting over someone, and then, you know, what do you do when you win? What are the spoils of war? Is that person, you know, suddenly the "land" that you took or whatever, the human resource that you collected, it's just for me, kind of a wrong mindset for how you think about building a great team, which is there's a relationship to be built. There's another person on the other side of that conversation. And to really look at it that way.
If you tend to focus on the external factors and the battle, you know, who am I fighting against rather than how am I positioning myself, my company, and you know, what it is this person can do there and how I can build a relationship with them versus just trying to win them at all costs, I guess. So again, not a fan of the war analogy. Never thought it was a good one, and I don't know if that's a spicy take or not, but I'd prefer to leave it off and not talk about it.
Gabby: Well, I think what struck me so much about your hot take—you spoke about the importance of candidates. Employees have free will, right? It's not just companies duking it out, employees have free will. And over the course of the past six months, a year, so much has changed on the micro-macro level. There's so many broader changes that are happening that are influencing how employees, how prospective employees are making decisions about where to work and where to stay working.
So, we thought that in today's session, we would spend some time talking about what some of those trends are that are playing a part in how your employees, prospective and current, are making decisions about where to work. So let's talk about one trend that certainly has been all over the news and the headlines in the past two years. COVID thrust us into a world where the office was not going to be the norm. But this question of where to work, are we gonna work a hundred percent remotely? Are we gonna be fully distributed? Are we gonna work fully in an office? Are we gonna have a hybrid approach? What are you seeing?
Melissa Taunton: So I think we're at a really important inflection point. Hopefully, we can say “post-pandemic,” but we're still kind of navigating our way out of it. And I think over the past two years, there's been an extraordinary challenge for CEOs and definitely people in leadership to help guide and navigate firstly the fully remote option that I think many companies managed quite well initially, and productivity spiked and people got used to having flexibility and being able to work from home. And then, you know, multiple returns that were either stored out because of new variants, or new developments in the pandemic, or because people just weren't coming back in the way that companies expected them to. And I think it's really important that every leader accept that things have changed and they've changed significantly and they've changed differently for different constituents in your company.
I think having an open mind, realizing that no one right now seems to have the silver bullet, the one answer to this conundrum. I think huge complexity has been introduced with hybrid [work] because when everyone was fully remote, it actually really benefited underrepresented minorities, women and people with disabilities, to be equally represented on a screen in a similar size square. And so there were a lot of gains made for those cohorts during a fully remote environment that I think they're fearful of losing now going back in person.
But I think even more damaging is what we're seeing is a lot of hybrid models. And so with hybrid models, I think it's gonna be really important to not create class structure within the hybrid model. A lot of people moved out of the areas where the companies now have HQs. So how are you gonna accommodate those employees? Are you gonna require them to move back or are you gonna have everyone on Zoom for core meetings and then be able to have in-office [work] utilized for things? We're seeing a big trend of in-office gatherings for social interaction, reconnecting with each other, feeling that personal connection, the conversations you'd have ad hoc. We're seeing it to be really vital for creation and creativity and engineering and product team meetings. We're not seeing as many people choosing to work in the office and actually get their work done. They're still vying to feel more productive at home. And so we're really in a state of flux, I would say.
I think we've got to keep our ears to the ground to see what's working, what's not working, and also respect that— definitely for women. There's a study published yesterday, Women in the Workplace by McKinsey and LeanIn. It was absolutely clear there that women want flexibility and women in the workplace are still doing 80% of the work of child caring and elderly parent care at home. And so that flexibility for them became mission critical. So, there are lots of things at play, but that's a long answer.
Gabby: So timely, that report just came out yesterday, and to see the number of women at the director level and above that are leaving in droves because they are looking for that flexibility, it's really interesting because also different populations have different preferences, and Nicole, you're seeing some interesting trends yourself on the executive level.
Nicole North: That's right. And this is an extension of what Melissa just said, not in opposition to it, but we are seeing a trend with senior executives where they're really prioritizing that in-person time. They want to be with their CEOs, they want to be with their leadership teams, they wanna be with their actual teams. So this, "Oh, remote is such a benefit," they're actually not seeing that as a benefit. And in fact, it's like, wow, okay, well I'm gonna be disconnected from those conversations in this hybrid environment. I have to travel more. I'm gonna be away from my family more. There's less organic collaboration. And we all know that leadership and development, employee development, mentoring, is hard enough as it is, and being able to do that in a hybrid environment is even more challenging.
Increasingly, we're hearing like, "Great, I live in San Francisco and oh, an incredible opportunity in New York, it's remote, wonderful!" And others are like, "Yeah, that's actually not great for me. I want to work in a company with a great culture and I want to be in the room with my peers." And there's also, I think for the senior executives that maybe have been through this rodeo before in different iterations, there is a real concern for perhaps not them being left behind, but certainly their teams being left behind in this hybrid environment. So if you're not there, you're not walking by your boss or your CEO and getting pulled like, "Hey, can I talk to you about this strategy? Can I talk to you about this?" And studies have certainly shown—and we're not talking about productivity and like monitoring keystrokes—but studies certainly have shown that when there are these hybrid environments, the people that aren't actually there are getting left behind. And so, that is definitely a shift and a little bit counter to what we had been seeing 6- 12 months ago, and that it was just this absolute benefit where it's quite the opposite in many cases now.
Gabby: It feels like we are certainly in the midst of murky waters, right? We are in the midst of a transition and we will look back on this time as a moment of inflection. I don't know that any of us feel like we're ready to call what direction we're headed in, but certainly in a moment.
Melissa: Yeah. And I think what's super challenging is one size does not fit all right? And that's something you just have to keep in mind. As you really put diversity as a priority, really thinking through how to support that with different initiatives. And I would say to build on what Nicole said, recent grads coming into the workforce for the first time have really struggled with remote. They learn so much from just carrying a bag, sitting in a meeting, hearing a negotiation, and you really can't underestimate the value of being able to see and hear and just be around leadership. So that's a really important aspect of this too.
Gabby: Absolutely. And it requires so much intention and design of leaders of an organization to craft an organization no matter what you decide, whether it's remote or it's hybrid or it's in office, right? It doesn't just happen, right? It needs to be intentionally crafted. I'd be remiss if we didn't talk about what's certainly in so many headlines right now when it comes to the economy and, you know, falling stock prices, inflation... one would think that it'd be super easy to grab some talent, but it doesn't seem
like it's all that easy these days. Pete, do you wanna kick us off?
Peter: Yeah, well I think having been at this a bit as Nicole and Melissa have too, just you see obviously a lot of ups and downs from a macroeconomic perspective. I think, generally speaking, venture-backed, privately held companies can kind of run at a little less of a wild swing of the pendulum. I think we tend to hear a lot of—depending on the macro conditions—like, oh, it must be like this now for you, or hey, because we're kind of in a bit of a downturn, recruiting must be really easy because all these great people are flooding the market. And, generally speaking, not the case, right? I think there are a lot of misconceptions around it being easier or harder.
Recruiting and building a great team is just really hard work. I think that's something we generally also say to a lot of our founders is, you know, you thought you started a company to build a product? You just became a recruiter. That's your job now. So, for all you founders out there, don't forget, it's probably a good 50% of your time at least. And that's just primarily because people joining a privately held startup are generally going to join not because of the great benefits or the amazing cash compensation. It's like, "Oh, you guys are doing something really interesting and I want to come work with you." And so the founder, you are the closer, right? You're the builder of the team.
But just back to "Is it easier to hire right now?" I think what we're seeing more generally and probably at the exec level is people that have kind of taken themselves off the market because it was actually too crazy. January/February timeframe, you were hearing from a lot of great execs, I'd get like, 50 emails a week on opportunities. There are 10 companies doing the same thing. They're all backed by reasonable investors. I don't even know what to look at. And so I'm just turning that off. I think we're seeing now people, interesting people, coming into the market, not because of the macro conditions or "Hey, I don't feel safe in my job," or anything other than, "I was already thinking about doing something else and now it feels like the opportunities that are available to me now are better."
I think, generally speaking, the market has sort of called the herd a bit on which companies are going to survive it, who are sort of operationally focused and are coming out the other side or have the chance to come out the other side. So I think they feel better about opportunities that are presented to them and they're engaging.
Also in this market, you see a lot of the, I guess we'd call them "startup tourists," who are big company folks who are like, "I'm gonna go do a startup now because look at the equity package I can get." I mean, we saw founders doing arguably not wise things relative to, you know, "Hey, let's try to put together this really big package for this exec from Amazon," and if they weren't necessarily the right person for that job, it just felt like in this market, we're going to scale and we're gonna be huge, so we should hire the person that's operated at massive scale. And it turns out they're just not able to come into something and build. They're operators, they're not builders. And you know, I think what we saw with this market is you lost some of those folks. They're gonna stay put at Google, Amazon, whatever. And then we're seeing a lot of really good folks who want to come and build something are now sort of engaging in those processes because it feels like it's a good time to get into the market. And, generally, venture firms talk about it too, "The great companies are built in the downturn," so find a good company and ride it to a big exit in the future when everything comes back.
Gabby: Nicole, you had some thoughts around risk aversion and financial security that candidates are maybe talking about—or maybe not talking about. But, the implications that founders and companies are trying to woo these candidates.
Nicole: Well, I think yes, there may be more people who are technically on the market, but they're more discerning than ever—and for those reasons. Risk aversion around career stability, financial stability, and then value creation. And we're in this challenging time right now. And by the way, we don't have the answers to this, but certainly a big incentive for executives to come in, like those senior executives at the larger companies to come in is because of course they're passionate and mission-aligned, but it is that value creation opportunity.
Now, we're seeing a lot of executives saying, "Huh, this isn't really penciling out so much, these valuations from six months ago..." So, you know, it's tough because we're not so far away that it's easy for founders or even the investors and us to do anything to really reconcile the valuations of six months ago. But certainly, these executives are looking at these numbers and they're like, "I don't see that path whereas I did before." So, that is tough. Then you think about, okay, well what are the strategies to try and get those folks? And so it's a little bit counterintuitive, but some people might think like, okay, our compensation, is that finally coming down? Are we finally able to temper these wild compensation and cash packages? Not really, no. See, great people always cost a lot, but if they're not seeing that the equity is penciling out in a way that it was before, then you actually are gonna have to pay them more because they do need to offset that. So, it's a little bit counterintuitive to what you might just initially think: "Oh, it's directly tied to what's going on in the economy. People just need jobs and want jobs." It's a little bit different, particularly at the most senior level.
Gabby: Cash just always seems to be king. It doesn't matter in a down market, or an up market... it often comes back. I'm curious, Melissa, have you seen anything similar with senior executives and how they're approaching these decisions around compensation and equity in their hiring process?
Melissa: Yeah, I mean, the last few years have just been kind of the wild west of compensation. We've spent an enormous amount of time trying to manage the craziness through COVID. I think great executives have sharpened their pencils. They're asking very insightful questions, maybe around 409A valuation or valuation at a prior round. And, you know, CEOs and leadership teams are having to think through that for themselves and their teams. So, you know, it's a time of reflection, more realism, I would say. You are seeing people who were going for the guaranteed RSU kind of fall away from some of those companies who had very generous RSU packages. And so I think just be really thoughtful, be really thoughtful about people's journeys, what they were aligned with from a compensation perspective prior.
You know, the great candidates are gonna push back, they're gonna ask hard questions, they're gonna be realistic about valuations. And so just think through all of those answers. Don't avoid it; address it, because everyone's thinking about it. So I'd say get ahead of it and really understand, have a good understanding of what your company looks like. I think just having that honest dialogue, I think great candidates will appreciate that because they're thinking about it, we're all thinking about it.
Gabby: Melissa, I heard you say that in this climate culture matters even more.
Melissa: Yep.
Gabby: And that candidates and employees are thinking about the team that they're working with right now. What are you seeing as it pertains to culture and team in this particular moment?
Melissa: Look, I think people have been through a lot and I think certainly a lot of people are traumatized by what COVID did to them, their lives, their families. And I think work is a huge part of our lives. There's no work-life balance. We all know that it's kind of an integration of one's self. And so I think creating a place where people can show up as themselves and feel a part of a team—belonging is a hugely important aspect that really struggled during remote work, I would say. And so, even if you are remote or you're hybrid, create opportunities to make people feel that they belong even if they're different. And so inclusivity, belonging, I think a founder's job, certainly on the recruiting side, but also driving the company, is to get the north star of the company clear and everyone to fall behind that north star and the mission, and to be reminded of it frequently.
What we did learn during COVID is that people really want to have some meaning in their work. It was a hard time and I think companies who are retaining people now are winning on culture, because we're all aware of the macroeconomic conditions and that things can go wrong. And when they do go wrong, you wanna be in a company and in the foxhole with people you trust and with a mission you're aligned behind and where you'll be respected and treated as an adult.
I think a lot of companies right now struggling with this return are not treating people like adults. I think if we learned anything during COVID with the increases in productivity is that people showed up and they behaved as, on the most part, they behaved as adults—apart from some of the people who were taking two or three jobs at various companies, which we know about. But people really showed up. And I think we shifted from, you know, the nine to five, five days a week in office, kind of post-industrial revolution style of working to realizing that people can do great work asynchronously. And so I think thinking through all those things, there's no one answer here, and there's no one direction. I think a leader has to feel what's right for their company and then try and create an inclusive environment to have that communicated through every rank and file in the company.
Gabby: Perfect. I think any one of us could talk about culture all day long. I'm just gonna suggest that we wrap up and Nicole, Pete, maybe you can offer to the founders in the room, what advice do you have for them as they are building the cultures of their organizations?
Nicole: Well, one thing that we're seeing more of is like, okay, well let's do more on-sites. Let's get everyone together. And that also means you're asking everyone to come to you. A lot of founders that we're now seeing that are doing a really great job of this, and we're hearing this from their employees, they're actually the ones doing the road show. They're the ones that are going to the different hubs where they know their employees are, their senior executives are, or their teams are. And that really means a lot. And being able to do those on-sites, but offsite and where they are, it's all about bringing people together and adapting your cadence of one-on-ones and not maybe through the lens of performance management, but really the career development and relationship building and the CEOs and founders really taking that onus on themselves to go to the people versus just asking everyone to come to them, I think is a really, really meaningful and impactful best practice.
Gabby: Really a powerful symbolism.
Nicole: It is. It is. Yeah.
Gabby: Pete, we'll let you close it on out.
Peter: All right. Yeah, I think obviously the founders in the room here were saying, "I don't really care about hiring a C-level exec or a senior exec. I just need to hire a couple engineers." Or, "I'm five people going to 10." I don't think the model's any different, right? I think we tend to, recruiting is hard, bottom line. It's not impossible, right? It's not an overly complicated problem to solve. I think we can overcomplicate it and make it harder on ourselves.
Generally speaking, culture is what wins. If we talk to the senior execs who are usually most vocal about, "Hey, my top priorities are team and mission." You know, what's the company doing? What's the impact? And not necessarily a mission like hey, I'm saving the world, but just... is this a product that impacts people's lives? Is it a B2B software that helps people do work better? And those types of things. Those folks are overtly communicating the fact that, you know, team and culture are most important. I don't think any of us sitting here in this room would say, oh, those aren't the important things, regardless of where we are in our career. So just keeping that in mind too, as you're thinking about how do I hire that next couple of engineers and oh, it's so hard and I've, you know, tried to hire this person and they turned me down and we lost on compensation. And you know, a lot of that is you'll never win on comp for whatever it's worth. You just won't, you know, someone will always probably pay more. And if ultimately you're losing someone to compensation, they probably weren't the right person to begin with, right?
So if you can be in market with where you are from a compensation perspective, the rest of it is about just you engaging with that person, selling them on what it is you're doing, the mission, the vision, the dream, and then really leveraging your own networks and the network of the people you're hiring. That's usually kind of the most effective way to really start to build out a team of folks who have good cultural alignment as well. But, you know, we tend to see a lot of, okay, I need to hire this, you know, front engineer, this full-stack engineer, and they must come from Stripe. Like, okay, but why? And it's mostly "I'm kind of attracted to the brand," or "I know they hired well," and I had to slip my TLC reference in here somewhere, like they say, don't go chasing waterfalls, right?
So, find the person that fits, you know, what you need today. And I mean, that may not be the person who graduated from XYZ University or, you know, I love the, "Hey, we're very diverse in our hiring. We hire from Stanford, MIT, and Harvard," right? It's like, well, that's not at all diverse.
Gabby: Georgia Tech…
Peter: Like, Georgia Tech. See, that's where you should be hiring from, right? Take advantage of where those people are going to be coming from locally, right? Don't go trying to find the person that's done the thing that you think you want to do, because they may not be the person who did that anyways. And, you know, ultimately whatever they did for another company may not be the thing that works best for you.
So just, again, general advice, and people have heard me say this too, so apologies for anybody I bored with this concept, but also, I mean, your company is your product too. So we tend to focus a lot on product development. And we're, you know, most founders who are product-oriented are amazing at that generally, then it tends to fall down when you get to recruiting. But if you start to say, "Hey, well let me think about my company as a product. Let me think about the roadmap of people and how we should probably build this organization based on where we want to go." And then, "Can I take user feedback?" if you will, or the unexpected use cases, adjust my roadmap and really just engage more on the building part of your company, just like you would the product itself. There tends to be a lot of like, "We're building this amazing product and we'll conquer the world." And then it's like, "Oh my God, I can't recruit anybody. It's the hardest thing in the world." It's hard. It's not the hardest thing in the world. It's not an unsolvable problem. And I think just engaging and then getting your investors involved, really making it a team effort, pulling in everybody to help you, and then really understanding where you can be the most effective.
Again, back to what I was saying earlier, you're the closer, right? You're the person setting the strategy, the mission, the vision. You're the person that'll get somebody over the line regardless of compensation, right? Because they want to come join you and work with you.
Gabby: Well, thank you so much. If we leave you today with any parting thoughts, first: don't go chasing waterfalls. Second, culture matters. And I will close with I spent eight years of my career at Google. And my boss at the time, a man named Laslow Bach, used to say people came for the mission. They want the meaning and the purpose. And they stayed for the voice and the feedback that they were given, the opportunity to share, to have their voice be heard, and that there would be this feedback loop with their executives, with their founders. And so we hope that over the course of the next two days, and as you all go back home to the various work that you are doing, you continue to think about that mission, that voice, that feedback, and the intention that you are putting behind building a world-class team and organization. And we wish you a great time over the next two days.
Thank you to our panelists. Really appreciate all the perspective you gave today. Thank you.
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